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мира будет с вами. Tengan Paz. Salaam

Please read the entire post before you reply.

I normally don't like making long posts but this one is really important. I will try to make it as interesting as possible (and please, the first person to reply, please don't post something like "not interesting enough, sorry", in an attempt to kill the interest of others who are willing to read it).

As I have said before: only certain parts of the Bible are trustworthy and due to those parts the bible should not be disregarded. I have also explained what our thoughts are made out of (if you haven't read it yet follow the trails of links which begin in my signature. Also: "supernatural" (miracles) is simply a term which most people use to define functions of nature which they cannot grasp with their own minds. This is what esoteric means. so "magic" is not really magic it's just science which most people can't understand and this is what I am trying to do, that is: to get you to understand it.

as I have said: when they have to do with your mind, chemistry and psychology are exactly the same thing because our entire body including our mind and thoughts are made out of chemicals. Our entire body including our minds emit "radio" waves from each atom, this is why you have the power to affect the weather with your mind. here comes one esoteric secret from the Bible related to that: when your mind starts waking up it will become breezy or cloudy or stormy including lightning around you. That is what is meant by "he comes with clouds" in the book of revelation. Jesus himself said that he was not coming back when he told his disciples that the kingdom was within them (one human would be born who would be as wise as him cause he learned from him and that person would become "the one" to save humanity). this is the child who is born as described by the book of revelation, that "the dragon" tries to kill. it is also the person to whom Jesus sends this message: "to the one who overcomes I will grant him to sit on my throne as I also overcame and sat on my fathers throne. let him who has ears listen to what the spirit is telling..." in other words "do you understand what I'm trying to tell you?" : YOU are me, so wake up and get out there and fix the world with your wisdom.

remember what I have told you about noise pollution, it is your enemy's weapon to interrupt your train of thought. and also your own friends who are blind and unknowingly controlled by your enemy will interrupt your meditation which is just reflecting or pondering. remember it is not wise to speak too much.

messages in music and movies and probably meant to confuse the one but the real one will use them as guides: Rush ,Matchbox 20, "rain maker", new world man, "the pass", the matrix, "the Truman show" all metaphors about the one and the bible's message. Get out of the psychological matrix. everything is psychology as I have been saying. to be able to save the world you must "know thyself" so learn how your mind works (follow the links which start in my signature here and also the links on my signature on my forum).

You have to view languages as if they are operating systems for humans. but unlike computers our operating systems affect our outsides (our body and faces) via the psycho-physiological interaction (psychosomatic). If you truly increase your IQ you will also become better looking. but don't be fooled, you may think you actually have high IQ and its quite the opposite. That's why I recommend that all should experiment learning new languages, try to pronounce them without an accent (even if others criticize you by saying "who does he think he is"). It's easier for people who already know more than one language to learn another than for those who are monolingual.

the proof that all this is the truth is that if you decide to BELIEVE it you will immediately hear thunder.

all those who believe and want to learn more visit my forum regularly and subscribe to my Youtube channel: "EsotericTengu"

Peace be with you, Salaam
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reply to Zarthushti below

yes you are right, if you noticed I said that "the one" learned from Jesus by reading the bible (obviously) this means that like Jesus the one must pray to God. If you read in the scriptures of Hebrews and also psalms you will see that Jesus is refered to as GOD but it also says the GOD (Jesus) has a GOD of his own, and that is his father (the only true GOD according to john 17:3) but Jesus never actually said what his father's name is when he was on earth.

We need a higher power cause among other reasons he keeps us humble because if you have one ounce of arrogance then you have failed from the start on your quest to be THE ONE. Jesus said: "whoever wants to be the greatest must be the servant of the others" what he meant is that one must be humble like Micah 6:8 says. this is why it's not easy being the one because you must remain humble, so that's why jesus says "he who overcomes..."

again Jesus said: "the days will come when you will desire to see one of the days of the son of man and you will not see it..." he also said: the kingdom of God does not come with observation...for indeed the kingdom of God is within YOU.
thats in Luke 17:20-22.

and then again in the book of revelation: 3:21 "to him who overcomes I will grant him to sit with me on my throne as I overcame and sat with my father on his throne" In other words: whoever wants to save the world has the opportunity to be THE ONE.

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Scimitar wrote:
I see two messges in the bible, both conflicting with eachother...

I see different versions of the bible, each splitting hairs over different things

I see every Christian, when cornered in a debate say something like "Yes that's what it says in my bible, but I don't believe that - I believe this"

I see the hand of the council of Nicea imagining it can slap away the hand of God

I see people, desperate to find a truth within their book, but never go to Church on Sundays

I see an ounce of truth and a ton of lies, within those versions

I see a hidden message that causes no two people to give you the same account of the trinity

I see too much, and therefore I don't see - because I don't want to see anymore...

Now, I just know. And that conviction came to from the Quran. None of the above apply to the Quran. The Truth and The Way.

Bless you all, Scimitar



I am not saying it is (that's why I am attempting to learn as much as possible about Islam and the Quran before I pass judgement about it) but how can you be sure that just like other world religions Islam is another tool which the illuminati themselves use to control us? "divide and conquer" "confusion". Remember just because you have seen evidence that your Islamic supplications have been answered before does this mean it is the truth? What if you are being deceived by higher more powerful (possibly evil) intelligence? Remember: psychology is the greatest science. we must not trust everything we choose to BELIEVE (even if they frazzle our minds with their distractions and noise pollution). Close your eyes to lessen the subconscious stress which noise pollution creates and take a deep breath through your nose and exhale through your mouth. The real, true and good God will help you. Do you choose to BELIEVE in him?

peace be upon you brother

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something additional to "research" related to what I said about messages in movie and music and other forms of entertainment. This is about one movie I mentioned "the truman show". just like in the matrix the main character is trapped by an evil being who can see everything he does, in the matrix it was the architect, in the truman show it was "Cristoff". In the matrix being trapped is represented by the number 101 (a psychological prison) , interestingly, in the video game fallout 3 you have to escape out of vault 101 and find "your father". back to the movies, NEO is a play on "the one" and it also means "new" as in "new world man" from the song from RUSH. in the truman show "cristoff" is a play on Christ's enemy because he wants "Christ" to be cut "OFF". So guess who "TRUE MAN" is. why is God the only true or "real" man? Because nobody created him.

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and still even more hints from movies (read my previous replies)

I keep saying everything is psychology. so take the good out of movies which are meant to confused you, the truth really is that "you have all the (mental) weapons you need (to be THE ONE). Now fight!

just one more thing... the one is a male...

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KwayisTayyib wrote:
Hello Mr. SP, I have been reading some of your posts before I registered. I must say, very intriguing stuff. You make some thought provoking and compelling points regarding your theories with those Bible verses you quoted at the end. If I register in your forum can I create topics with my own views and opinions?



thank you. always REMEMBER the power of BELIEVE is great (faith). MEMORY is the key but unfortunately noise, distractions, subtle censorship, reverse psychology combined with flat out lies are ever in use by those who want to control your rationale (including possibly people in this forum). don't be afraid of complete silence. find a quiet place and communicate with "infinity". see the big picture with your mind's eye. become one with the cosmos and the God who created it will guide you. all those principals you must always be able to remember while always remaining humble, arrogance and vanity always work against us.

Yes, it is encouraged that you posts your own views on my forum so that we can discuss and opine about them.

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no no no please dont bin this good thread. Hello dunpeal, pleasant to make (virtual) acquaintance. I agree with some of what you are saying but also with what our muslim brothers point out. If you guys have been following my posts you should know that I have said several times that: only some parts of the bible are trustworthy and the Bible itself states this like insha has said in Jeremiah 8:8. this is why the bible should not be disregarded. I agree with you dunpeal that it "seems" that our muslims brothers here use the teachings of the bible to convert christians into islam and then slowly suggest that they should completely ignore the bible. at least that's what it seems like. My muslim friends please let us create unity.


The are missing scriptures of the bible also which our common enemy (elite societies) have kept from us. most people are familiar (have heard about it) with the scriptures of enoch but there are others which the current bible itself mentions like: "Jasher" "Iddo" and a few others (not the apocryphal scriptures of which most are actually also canonical excluding sirach and possibly others).

Brother dunpeal I will remind you some of the trustworthy teachings of the bible: in the scripture of James (new testament) he says that any man who does not make an error when he says something is a perfect man which can also control his emotions and behavior perfectly (like jesus supposedly). Then proverbs suggest that silence is the sign of wisdom when it says: in an abundance (big quantity) of WORDS sin (which is error) is not absent, but those who hold their tongue act with wisdom. it also says that: even a fool will be regarded as wise if he remains quiet

I am by no means implying that you are a fool rather simply lacking a little wisdom. "silence really is "golden" in more ways than most people realize. Have you heard of the concept of "word sound power"? why are you overreacting by saying that people are going to flame and argue and that this thread should be binned, please friend dont become agitated rather remain in peace (calm).
we all must make use of both the Quran and the Bible and we must all reflect (think) and ask for God's guidance before we say something.

Dunpeal may I know? do you live in a Big noisy city?

please also friends, read the "secret" message of the Bible which I explain in this thread: http://wup-forum.com/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=20625

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molvicorleone wrote:
If Jesus was God, why did Peter say?

22 “Fellow Israelites, listen to this: Jesus of Nazareth was a man accredited by God to you by miracles, wonders and signs, which God did among you through him, as you yourselves know.



Only christians with erroneous doctrines believe that Jesus is God but Jesus himself never said that he was God rather the son of God, he said; "the father is greater than me". when Jesus said that: "my father and I are one", it was a figure of speech as if you were to say: if somebody hurts my dad it's like if I feel it in my own flesh because I love him so much, if somebody hurts my father it's like hurting me.

Jehovah Witnesses (aka Jehovah Christians) don't believe that Jesus is God: John 17:3, John 3:16

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molvicorleone wrote:
SP_Sage wrote:
molvicorleone wrote:
If Jesus was God, why did Peter say?

22 “Fellow Israelites, listen to this: Jesus of Nazareth was a man accredited by God to you by miracles, wonders and signs, which God did among you through him, as you yourselves know.


Only christians with erroneous doctrines believe that Jesus is God but Jesus himself never said that he was God rather the son of God, he said; "the father is greater than me". when Jesus said that: "my father and I are one", it was a figure of speech as if you were to say: if somebody hurts my dad it's like if I feel it in my own flesh because I love him so much, if somebody hurts my father it's like hurting me.

Jehovah Witnesses (aka Jehovah Christians) don't believe that Jesus is God: John 17:3, John 3:16


JW believe Joseph Smith was a Prophet right? Do you also believe that?



you are confusing Jehovah Witnesses with mormons




-- Edited by PanaceANOMALY on Thursday 25th of August 2011 05:48:46 PM

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